Proposal: Staff Participation

Seat of the Knightly Order in pursuit of improving our fair site

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#1 Proposal: Staff Participation

Post by SoulGamesInc » Mon May 14, 2018 3:44 pm

I've mentioned this to Parafix already and figured I'd propose the same to the current knightly gentleman (and Gimli) as it'll effect the Knighthood as a whole moving forward. Fourscore and seven minutes ago, I had a dream! A dream where Staff would participate alongside Knights to debate and vote on the direction of the site. This is counter to the current Knights-Only that excludes Staffers from contributing.

My proposal is simple: Members of Staff gain entry to the Knighthood by virtue of joining staff and helping run the site in their own areas, now also by way of this proposal able to join discussions with Knights and weigh in on decisions that effect the very site they've already committed to helping as Staff. A Knight is one committed to improving and growing the site. Staff is no different in that regard.

The goal is a simple one. Allowing open discussion among all those committed to the sites improvement.

The change (if accepted) would be as follows...
- Opening the doors to allow Staff the ability to participate in Knighthood and it's duties.
- Staff are afterwards considered as fellow Knights by virtue of joining Staff to help the site.
- Staff do NOT maintain the Knighthood upon ever leaving Staff, but may become a Squire and earn it back.
- Staff may perform all the usual Knightly duties and are held to the same Code of Chivalry as all Knights.
- Within the Knight's Order and it's duties Staff is on equal footing with other Knights. No special treatment.

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#2 Re: Proposal: Staff Participation

Post by Gimli » Wed May 16, 2018 2:17 am

~Staff should be able to vote, and or put forth proposals/discussions.
~However, Knighthood is its own separate thing in my opinion and not "everyone" should be Knights

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#3 Re: Proposal: Staff Participation

Post by SoulGamesInc » Thu May 17, 2018 8:06 pm

Gimli wrote:
Wed May 16, 2018 2:17 am
Knighthood is its own separate thing in my opinion and not "everyone" should be Knights
I don't think we're in danger of that. It'll always be the case that the average Knight population massively outnumbers the Staff numbers, but Staff I believe are already fulfilling the criteria of what we'd want from Knights. Activity, Helpfulness, Commitment and an interest in seeing the site improve; thus making it silly that Staff cannot partake in Knightly duties too. Naturally, they'd not stay Knights upon leaving Staff.

It'll also mean (especially early on) that we've more people here joining in on decisions and proposals etc.
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#4 Re: Proposal: Staff Participation

Post by Saint Xenny » Thu May 17, 2018 8:16 pm

I oppose. U can be my squires if u want to. Bring me ale and heat my bathing water :)

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#5 Re: Proposal: Staff Participation

Post by King of Dawn » Thu May 17, 2018 8:20 pm

Support.
I think most of the knights don't have much experience running and leading the community.
Having experienced guys like you joining the discussions will be a good guidance.
Staff and the knights will hear eachothers opinion, so we know the view of 'the people above us'.

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#6 Re: Proposal: Staff Participation

Post by SoulGamesInc » Thu May 17, 2018 8:23 pm

Saint Xenny wrote:
Thu May 17, 2018 8:16 pm
Bring me ale and heat my bathing water :)
I think perhaps we need a new entry in the Code about mistreating squires lol
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#7 Re: Proposal: Staff Participation

Post by Gimli » Thu May 17, 2018 8:31 pm

Support

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#8 Re: Proposal: Staff Participation

Post by Saint Xenny » Thu May 17, 2018 8:49 pm

SoulGamesInc wrote:
Thu May 17, 2018 8:23 pm
Saint Xenny wrote:
Thu May 17, 2018 8:16 pm
Bring me ale and heat my bathing water :)
I think perhaps we need a new entry in the Code about mistreating squires lol
Silence squire. This is my domain.

EDIT: For once in my life i will be productive.
They can join the knights but only be able to propose proposals. They wont have the ability to vote. How about that one?

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#9 Re: Proposal: Staff Participation

Post by Greystark111 » Fri May 18, 2018 2:45 pm

Yeah, I support the idea and also support a rule about mistreating squires.

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#10 Re: Proposal: Staff Participation

Post by SoulGamesInc » Fri May 18, 2018 2:57 pm

Saint Xenny wrote:
Thu May 17, 2018 8:49 pm
They wont have the ability to vote
I don't see any reason why they wouldn't vote. Staff fulfill every criteria of Knights by virtue of joining Staff and as such it's foolish that they wouldn't be able to debate and vote on matters related to the sites improvement. They are already in essence Knights; without the ability to partake in Knighthood. Staff are already doing this site a massive service and should have a voice in it's direction too.

I've yet to see any negatives to this proposal. Staff being Knights is only bringing more qualified Knights to the table.
Greystark111 wrote:
Fri May 18, 2018 2:45 pm
and also support a rule about mistreating squires
That was a joke. I'm pretty sure we've "don't act like a cunt" rules in the Code of Chivalry already.
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